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      CommentAuthorSuicide
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2008 edited
     
    Pootling about the cobbled streets of edinburgh I rolled up behind a bus with an huge ad plastered across it's rear.
    It contained the tag "It's less fuss by bus!" and a picture of some bawbag in a suit on a kid's trike.

    You'll find the source picture at
    http://www.stagecoachbus.com/fife/News_4026.html
    though they enlarged the muppet considerably for their ad.

    I'm gobsmacked. I know Slowcoach are a shitty company but to try and persuade folks off bikes and into buses is ridiculously backward-thinking if not enviromentally irresponsible. Any instances of this happening elsewhere? Should I bother with whinging to the ASA?

    :angry:
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      CommentAuthorjonaent
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2008
     
    It's better and easier to encourage drivers out of car and into bus than straight onto a bike. It's better for a country to support state funded infrastructure, it gives jobs and will also encourage environmental changes in transport systems in major cites if more people use public transport. It's naive to think that getting everyone on a bike is the way to become environmentally sound. The only way things will change is if we use contemporary infrastructure on a large scale - bikes are a tiny pat of that.

    It's about cotinuing to live to the standard and quality of life that we have now (that we fought for with the creation of a welfare state etc.) without massive amounts of wastage, that is the key, waste. The majority of people I know would find it impossible to use a bike for work, but it would be very easy for them to support the manufacture of carbon nutral forms of transport whether that be buses or cars. That is where the change will come from. Bikes are great in town, I use mine ALL the time, but outside of London it would be ridiculous to suggest to the average person that they use a bike.
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      CommentAuthorSuicide
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2008
     
    pardon me pal but i think you missed the point here.
    The ad shows a businessman stressed out on a tiny bike and tries to convince commuters to switch away from _bikes_ , not cars.
    And this in the miniscule 'city' of edinburgh (aye it may be hilly but most grannies seem to manage fine with gears).

    I agree with most of what you say, although these are PRIVATE companies we're talking about, subsidised by us, true, but only looking out for the PROFIT.

    If I were living in the countryside I too would use a car, but that's got n'owt to do with this issue.

    Point is they're using some of our money (through subsidies) to get people off bikes and into infernal combustion driven unsustainable transport.
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    Stagecoach are an excellent company!
    I will hear no word said against them!
    Many years ago, I was stranded in Dunfermline - still a God-fearing town in those days - one Saturday night. It was during the Embra Festival. Though I had £300 in cash in my pocket, I wasn't going to pay for a luxury out-of-town hotel. Needless to say, there were no rooms at any of the cheap or middle-price hotels. It started raining. Heavily. It wasn't exactly warm for August.
    The first train back tae Embra on Sunday morning left at some time after 11-30! In those Sunday Trading days, there wouldn't even have been a garage open until then. The best part of 12 hours, wet, thirsty and hungry in Dunfermline didn't bear thinking about.
    Stagecoach had a couple of night "piss-artist special" buses, winding down from Kirkcaldy to Auld Reekie. I couldn't believe it when I looked at the timetable on the bus stop and saw there were buses scheduled. Saved my bacon.
    As I said, I will have no word said against them!
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      CommentAuthorThe.Pike
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2008
     
    bagatha baggin it up christie! the bus drivers up ere r loonatics!
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      CommentAuthorjonaent
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2008 edited
     
    "pardon me pal but i think you missed the point here.
    The ad shows a businessman stressed out on a tiny bike and tries to convince commuters to switch away from _bikes_ , not cars.
    And this in the miniscule 'city' of edinburgh (aye it may be hilly but most grannies seem to manage fine with gears)."


    Yes, I see what you mean... I agree
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    "the only way things will change" is if the human population is massively reduced. we are fucked.