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      CommentAuthorlatchmore
    • CommentTimeMar 31st 2008
     
    Sorry to talk politics but I haven't read much/any of what the different candidates are standing for and I only care about their policy on bike lanes etc. Does anyone know who has the strongest policies for cyclists?
    • CommentAuthorsleepy
    • CommentTimeMar 31st 2008 edited
     
    basically if you don't vote ken you're either a racist/racist sympathiser or a fuckwit of astronomical proportions [paddick voter]. or you could waste your vote by voting green. if you're asking on an internet forum who you should vote for* then give your vote to me and vote ken just to keep the even bigger wankers out.

    *you did actually ask "who has the strongest policies for cyclists?", this question is meaningless. i'm figuring this is your first time voting, allow me to be the first to break it to you: politicians will say whatever the fuck they like to get in to office and whatever the fuck they like to stay in office. ignore the nice things they say they'll do and concentrate on the nasty shit it is very likely they will do. i'll break it down:

    boris: build lots and lots of pointless bike lanes, waste big piles of public money on parties/beer/women. although being such a loose cannon it's impossible to know just how bad he will fuck up, and fuck up he will, not just any tory, but a bumbling racist of the old skool tories.

    paddick: wants messengers to be licensed, also wants to decriminalise cannabis. he won't get in anyway, and he seems flaky.

    ken: more of the same, nothing radical.

    vote ken! better the devil you know!
    • CommentAuthorsleepy
    • CommentTimeMar 31st 2008 edited
     
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    vote for Harry Hill I beg you. before its too late
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      CommentAuthorBuffalo Bill
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2008 edited
     
    Not much to choose from: they all support the LCC's cycling manifesto. More bike lanes!

    They differ in respect to their attitudes to motor traffic.

    Boris and Brian want to take out some of the lights, and rephase them 'to get traffic moving', and they are not so committed to the 20 mph limit, only saying that they think it is a good idea 'where appropriate'.

    You might think that if this happens, the roads would become less safe.

    They also plan to scale down the congestion charge, which lead to more traffic on the roads.

    Boris thinks that the Low Emissions Zone is '‘the most punitive, draconian fining regime in the whole of Europe’. Which ties in with his 'pro-business, low regulation' ideology.

    Of all the candidates, Sian Berry, Green Party, is the most committed to slowing down and reducing motor traffic.

    Ken is probably closer to Sian than the other two.
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      CommentAuthorBuffalo Bill
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2008 edited
     
    Oh, and further to sleeps comment - you have two votes in the Mayoral elections. 1st and 2nd pref. So if you could vote for Brian and then Boris, Sian and then Ken, or any combination of the above, without 'wasting' your vote.
    • CommentAuthorsleepy
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2008
     
    whose sian? :confused:

    the low emission zone is a subject i feel ambivalent about: yes less emissions would be a good a thing but that law is going to hit business's hard- small business's the hardest. unless that business is fitting LPG engines :wink:
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    Sian Berry, Green Party.

    It will only punish smelly dirty small businesses - not clean fragrant ones. And if they have poor emissions, they are probably running badly maintained Goods Vehicles - cheap retread tires, broken mirrors etc etc
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    BBC says Richard Branson is throwing his mayoral cap into the ring........should be interesting!!!!!
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    Branson?

    He he! What a larf!
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    Wait a minute.

    What date is it today?
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      CommentAuthorlatchmore
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2008
     
    That would be an April Fools!

    I am not bothered about the 20mph speeds because I go faster than that and we are normally faster than traffic anyway. I just want lots more Bike lanes and lots more bus lanes but I'd rather have 1 mile of decent lane than 20 miles of pointless green paint on the side of some dead residential road (my main gripe with tfl at the moment). The idea of reducing emmissions is nice too but I see your point about it hitting small businesses. It'd be good to see lockable bike boxes around (especially at stations for the commuters) and strong policies against bike theft but those rental bikes everyone is talking about sounds like an expensive waste of time. Less traffic lights could be good but I do sympathise for pedestrians a bit.

    They should make more roads for busses and bikes only. I read on LCCs site that they want 1 way roads turned back to 2 way. I can't really see the benefit. They should do more to link up other transport links with bike lanes though and allow bikes on more buses Trains and tubes for people commuting on both bike and public transport. Finally I think cyclists should have to stop then give way to cars and pedestrians but should still be able to go through except on certain particularly dangerous lights which should be marked as such.

    Paddicks policies sound rubbish. End of.
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    The benefit of turning 1 ways back in to two ways is that you don't have to ride down one way streets to get where you are going quick.

    It's a while since the Shoreditch triangle was changed - but it was a right pain before. Incidentally, I know for a fact that this changed as a direct result of Green Party pressure.

    You may not care about the 20 mph speed limits - but they make a huge difference to people hit. Surely you must have seen all the stats about survival rates?

    Bike lanes are a waste of time. We already have a lane - it's the Public Highway!
    • CommentAuthorchris crash
    • CommentTimeApr 3rd 2008 edited
     
    you all know democracy is the practice of the fallacy of argumentum ad populum right?