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    • CommentAuthorKsolano
    • CommentTimeOct 7th 2007
     
    Had my ride stolen with the Abus Steel-O-Chain Lock taken with the bike aswell.
    i know no lock is guaranteed secure, but what do you use & whats good?
    Cheers, k.
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    Shit man sorry to hear that.

    Was it stolen while you were working?

    how long had you left it?

    You can cut through any lock in a minute or two with an angle grinder.
    Duration and location of locking are just as important as what lock is used (although the cases below don't demonstrate this)

    I got my saddle pinched during an hour wait for a pickup (supposedly a rush job??!?!?!?!)
    Should have waited outside and fed the pigeons rather than talk inane crap with the girl on the desk

    Bike theft is so painfully unfair:

    A chum got so pissed up he'd forgetten he'd chained his bike up outside the pub. Nearly 24 hours later he returned and rode home. It was Obviously a nice bike too. A different friend got her well worn bike taken during a 30 minute grocery shop. Both used the same lock as did/do I (abus steel o flex...whatever...the black flexible one that goes round your waist)

    I once went into borders on charing cross road during standby.
    Put my bike on the railings outside.
    Got a call a good cycling plus and wire magazine later.
    went out to unlock my bike only to find I still had my lock round my waist.
    The fucking bike was still there.
    AS I said bike theft is Painfully unfair.

    USual advice. Brick lane on sunday. gumtree etc etc

    Good luck
    • CommentAuthorKsolano
    • CommentTimeOct 8th 2007
     
    i was a bit silly leaving it around Brixton with just one lock.. if was left for about 2hours, then gone.
    These abus locks that go around you'r waist seem to be the problem as you said, your friends had the same locks & the bikes were pinched.
    Maybe i'll go for a Abus Granit Plus 51 Lock 300MM for over night locking + a waist lock for work.. Still heaving 2locks around london is a bummer.
    Also, i'm getting evans cycle insurance. For £50 a year u get theft protection! (never knew insurance was that cheap)

    Any more ideas of great locks? cheers.
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    I got the Abus level 15 security d lock. It's £70 (depending on where you get it) and very heavy. I got it cos it was the toughest lock on the market, and not many other people use it. My reasoning is that if you got a tougher lock than everybody else, than all other things being even, thieves will go for the cheaper lock.

    But like nomoreknees says, any lock can be cut. I had to hacksaw my Krypto mini-D (lost key) and it took less than 30 mins with tungsten hack-saw blade.

    I still wouldn't leave my bike anywhere outside overnight, and not really happy leaving it anywhere for a long time.

    When I am out with the girlfriend, we nearly always lock both frames with both our locks.

    It's also worth thinking about investing in those pit locks. They seem to be pretty unbreakable, and would make a bike un-re-sellable (is this a new word?). If you can make a bike un-re-sellable, then it defeats the object of stealing it.

    Bike theft sucks. But it happens because people buy stolen bikes. I have had to talk two different friends (non-messengers) out of buying Brick Lane specials this year. 'But it's so cheap', 'they seem kosher'....

    Eventually shamed them into forgoing their purchases.
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    "I once went into borders on charing cross road during standby.
    Put my bike on the railings outside.
    Got a call a good cycling plus and wire magazine later.
    went out to unlock my bike only to find I still had my lock round my waist.
    The fucking bike was still there.
    AS I said bike theft is Painfully unfair."

    Yeah, I came out of the office in Berwick Street at 830pm, having left my bike locked in the Broadwick Street bike stands ALL DAY.

    As I was walking down the street, I suddenly realised that my bag was heavy, heavy enough to have my lock in it. Started running, got round the corner - the ONLY bike left on the stands, unlocked

    MINE!

    What a f&cking dummy.
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      CommentAuthorjimmy
    • CommentTimeOct 15th 2007
     
    the thing with abus 900 steel-o-flex (the one that have round locking mechanisn) is that you can open it in 5 seconds by whacking the lock with a fairly big hammer...i've seen it done...so no need for angle grinder or bolt cutters even...not sure about the newer versions granit 1000 (you can definitely bolt cut it in 30 seconds or so) or the biggest one granit x-plus 1050...this one looks quite sturdy...but again weights a lot...
    on a daily basis i'm using abus diskus chain with diskus padlock (but the 7 pin flat key one...as 5 pin can be picked very easily...check on youtube)...
    kryptonite new yorker 3000 seems to work quite good if i have to leave my bike for a longer period of time...cinema etc.
    but if you want the ultimate security go for almax chain...this thing is almost unbrakeable...at least requires hell loads of effort and whoever wants to do it needs or a blow torch or industrial strenght accid or will make shit loads of noise trying to brute force it...it weights 7.5kg without the padlock though :/

    i never had my bike nicked (touch wood) and it is a nice bike...perhaps i was lucky or perhaps it's because the combination of locks i'm using...abus diskus chain...krytponite new yorker d-lock...evolution mini d-lock...pit lock for my stem and seat post + security pin screws for wheels, brake and saddle...what seems to work for me is locking my rear wheel to the frame with mini...chaining front wheel and frame to something...and locking rear wheel and frame with kryptonite...but that's a lot of locks...and kryptonite is very heavy...chain and mini are ok though...

    insurance seems a good idea...but did anyone here ever got money from insurance ? just wondering how much hustle it really is to get it.

    hope it helps...and never thrust those security muppets or receptionist that tell you to leave your bike outside and they will look after it...like they really give a flying fuck about it...always lock it even if it just lean locking...
    • CommentAuthorlurkette
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2007
     
    "but did anyone here ever got money from insurance ? just wondering how much hustle it really is to get it."

    i got an insurance payout once. it was a very long time ago and very easy. however, i only had an entry level trek mtb and i had it insured on my home contents. i got a cheque really quickly and went off and bought a better bike. the bike wasn't worth loads, so that could be why i got an easy payout. i think it was only £200-250.

    i was using cycleguard when i first came back to london, but then i read (here i think) that they don't pay out if your bike is stripped, so i didn't renew. i think that (new?) evans insurance will be the same as it is underwritten by the same people (pavillion).

    i use a krytonite mini d lock and i also have pitlock security skewers. pricey, but worth it imo. i like my wheels. :tongue: (all praises to ross at brixton.)
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      CommentAuthorjago25_98
    • CommentTimeSep 3rd 2008
     
    Hello and here I am bumping the thread.

    Some thoughts:

    What about welding a lock on.
    What about increasing the convenience of locking; something automatic, something electric like a safe, press-of-the-button-and-it's-done-affair.

    Are Torx or spline head screws available for bike components?

    Lacquer on a picture of yourself; sign company? Making the bike truly undesirable?
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    Welding a lock onto your bike? Bad idea I think. tubes on your bike are light, hollow, thin. locks are solid, heavy. Plus it would make it difficult to lock the bike up, for obvious reasons.

    Forget spline head screws, anyone can buy a spline head screwdriver. Pit locks are better, because only your unique tool will fit, but I suspect that a ******* might be able to open it.

    I doubt a picture of yourself or your company logo would make your bike undesirable. Those things can easily be spraypainted over. The only undesirable bike is a broken one.
    • CommentAuthorsleepy
    • CommentTimeSep 4th 2008
     
    hollow torx would be better, but not up to pit lock standard.

    welding a lock onto a bike? are you dutch?

    automatic anti theft device: shot gun cartridge in suspension seatpost.
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      CommentAuthoroverdrive
    • CommentTimeSep 4th 2008
     
    "I doubt a picture of yourself or your company logo would make your bike undesirable."

    Have you seen a picture of Buffalo Bill lately?
    • CommentAuthorredrum
    • CommentTimeSep 4th 2008
     
    "automatic anti theft device: shot gun cartridge in suspension seatpost" GENIUS:smoking::whorship:
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      CommentAuthorsteff
    • CommentTimeSep 4th 2008
     
    I have one of these http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/product.asp?P_ID=122 which I reckon is as secure as one can reasonably get, but it's bloody heavy and slightly awkwardly short.
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    Well! I was just speculating, but someone with admin power obviously knows that a ********* can open a pitlock. I shall keep schtum about that one.
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      CommentAuthorarif
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2008
     
    steff, that's the sort of lock you expect to see on a motor bike!!

    I'd rather go for two lighter locks than one chunky mofo