You can learn the ropes with them but I wouldn't spend too long there.Get to know the city while you're there then move on to another company that pay a bit better. Oh,welcome to the best/worst job in the world....
yeh good luck mate, as they said in Platoon - WELCOME TO THE SUCK!
Good company to start off with, my mate Ricky did well there before he left London for sunny France and he literally started with no city knowledge and only got his road bike a week before earning a living off it.
i heard a dirty rumour they were trying to shake their image of being a bit shit, that was before they stripped my mate of his contracts though. am i right in thinking they had/have a nasty reputation for witholding the last week of pay from leaving courier? standard practice would be to take a "holiday" so you get paid before they know you're leaving.
Never worked for courier systems, but from the many stories floating around I know there are both better and worse out there. Then again I spent a year (an interesting year) at Churchills and I came out of it ok.. Maybe I'm just difficult to annoy. Anyway, the guys hanging around outside Parnell House don't look *too* unhappy at any rate... In terms of starter companies they sound fine. And get your experience up then start looking for other companies sooner rather than later.
I agree with sleepy. Many bad stories over the years about what amounts to basic theft of wages.
If we stuck together more often and weren't so short sighted/optimistic/desperate/stupid we could get a better deal for ourselves.
The classic scenario was always that the last person you spoke to would get up from their chair and not come back and someone else would say "we have no record of you working here".
Well, son, I don't know if I can tell you much, you being in London and me in Anchorage but I can tell you this in your first few years you may find yourself sore and in pain and by some bit of blind shithouse luck with money in your pocket and you just might be in some bar. When it stops hurting stop drinking, that next drink is a ticket to Waytoofuckedupville. And one more thing all courier service owners dick their couriers, I was self-employed and I still got the urge to kill my boss. Ride safe wear a condom, Kirk
I've been with them for 3 months or so now but without another firm to compare them to it's hard to say. I've had some rotten paychecks and some decent ones. Will be trying to make a move somewhere else before summer unless things get consistently good. What's your callsign goose?
Sleepy... let me clarify the procedure for the leaving courier. Firstly its got nothing to do with current wages, you get them as they come, regardless whether youre leaving or not, so witholding last weeks pay is not true. Then from the moment you bring the equipement back it takes one week for you to get the whole of the deposit back APART from 50 pounds we keep for 4 weeks in order to cover some costs courier might have made by ie calling from his XDA. When 4 weeks is gone - and no additional costs were found - rider can collect his 50 pounds.
all the same the stories of witheld wages are a common story and they are not peculiar to courier systems. if you don't want to find yourself running around trying to get wages owed to you i would only ever officially quit after receiving my last weeks wages.
If you are not such thieving bastards then why do we repeatedly hear horror stories about you? I think there are other companies out there that rip their riders off but your name keeps coming up. Do come up with something better than a "procedure" that you so clearly do not follow. I've worked for people that upon me leaving have warned me about you. That is ex employees of yours. They were not beeing vindictive. Just giving me a friendly word. Or how about a mate who had a shit company van that broke down on a wednesday and he ended up owing you money for the week? Everything that is said about you is true. You are the pits.
pornomike... Im not sure whats happened to that van driver youre referring to, im dealing with pushbikes only, so cant give any inside on that. I can assure you however that no such situations happen to pushbike riders, there ARE NO deposit problems, there ARE NO withheld wages when someone leaves, that's all NOT true.
Many things have changed on our circuit over past 12 months. I do acknowledge a bad reputation CSys fleet have had for past few years (not paying well, some occasional wage problems or hiring people off the street), but thats not the case anymore. We have a really strong circuit at the moment with around 15-20 people REGULARLY getting 300+, experienced riders you can rely on and its a real pleasure to work with. We treat riders with respect and they repay us with hard work and I can personally vouch for that.
We still face few difficulties like not the greatest radios or the bags, which arent most convenient, but we are working on it and, given time, it will get done too.
As for riders giving the bad feedback: firstly the last time we lost a GOOD EXPERIENCED rider was probably around September last year (and that was partly our fault, a bit of a cock up from our side, which made him to leave, which is a shame, i admit, but we stay in touch and he might come back). Secondly we all know how it feels when you leave (or youre sacked). Feeling is not great and when asked whats happened i bet most of the riders will put the blame on the employer. We had a rider which was sacked in November (nearly lost us a big customer due to his reckless behaviour) and one of our riders told me few days ago that he keeps spreading word that he actually LEFT due to not getting enough work. Is he going to admit that he was sacked? Is his pride going to let him? Dont think so. So its a two way street really.
Perception of CSystems on this forum is wrong. We are very different to where we have been couple of years back, so before you make any comments i would strongly suggest to speak to any of our current riders, rather than people that left/were sacked.