Thankyou for that and prob right hopefully any other comments will be have a veiw on the question that arent insulting to myself and express the veiws they hold on a industry i had the good fortune and misfortune to be stuck in for 14 years
why should couriers be licenced?it wouldnt make the courier better off,councils yes. anyway having just left the taxi industry i can tell you that paying for a licence didnt help me any,its shite pay unless "like other self employed drivers"you virtually live in your vehicle.
"My own belief is that all couriers should be licensed as it would have kept a danergous profession much better paid than it seems to be nowdays" Are you as fuc*ing stupid as you are illiterate? How would licence protect a courier from free-market capitalism? Economics 1.01 Employers will pay the workers the minimum the market forces will allow them to. Market forces acting on the courier trade are; a) The desire of the bosses to get rich. b) The ability of clients to move to another service provider offering a cheaper service. c) The availability of labour. ( i.e. the number of people wanting/willing to work in the industry compared to the number of people needed to provide said service.) d) The ability of the labouring classes to organise, both within companies and across the industry as a whole, to protect themselves against the worst excesses of the market. ( that's rate cuts to you.)
Forcing the workers to enrich bureaucrats does not present a solution to any of the above.
I'd happily licence myself to run red lights at my own risk if it means not paying 30 quid everytime I'm caught, or having to evade the law to escape this fine.
To clarify what I mean for example if I crash as a result of running the light I have only myself to blame and cant claim support from other crash victims etc. And the 'licensing' I'm happy to sign is that pertaining to I treat red lights like give way jcts / only go if its safe etc etc etc yawn. . .
If by licencing myself other than this, I'm not interested unless I stand to make more money through doing so. Who needs yet another phot id card / VISA lokkeelikey card to go with their Tesco Clubcard, bank card, Nectar, Stringfellows etc cards?
There are places where couriers are licensed. It doesn't do them much good. There was a link on here a couple of years back to a tale of woe from Chicago. (Licensing there gives you the choice of wearing the ball and chain inside your lycra leggings, preventing any damange to back wheel or rear mech from having 5lbs of metal dragging along behind you.) Riders have to wear day-glo yellow bibs with a big ID number stencilled on them - almost as humiliating as being a copper and having to wear a similar garment. The story will be on Google somewhere. My honourable friend, the member for Broadwick Street, hits it on the head with "d)" - couriers are too dysfuctional to organise a union. Just as, for that matter, both the spiv/minicab-driver/petty-crook brigade that traditionally ran the industry and the third-rate-accountants/bean-counters that now proliferate are too thick to set-up a trade association to rid the industry of the likes of Courier Systems and Special Delivery. I'm astounded that pedal rickshaw riders/drivers aren't even required to have a CRB check, much less hold a licence.
smardy41, you were not in the taxi industry. You were a minicab driver. Licensing - provided it keeps numbers of licensed drivers at less than half the level the market requires - does Schmutzige Yiddisher Schwarzers plenty of favours.