Hi

Basically I delivered a package (which I know i did) and someone lost it in the building (not my fault). So Churchill express phones me a week later (a week later, thats fucking suspicious, who orders a on the day courier and then chases up there package a week later) saying that the package was lost and for me to get hold of the sheets that had the signature on. I told them they might be at home but Id probably thrown them away. I went home to phone them like instructed! (rude considering i lived miles away from where i was working). I could not find them so I phoned them but did not get a chance to tell them i could not find them as they put me on hold once i said it was me and then they just hanged up.(suspicious) (I think they were getting ready how to tell me what they were about to say)

I waited about 20 minutes thinking they would phone me back as this all sounded very important to them. They didnt.
So i phoned them in which I straight away said I cant find the sheets. The guy sighed and transferred me to my controller who asked have you found the sheets. I replied no and explained i remembered the guy exactly who signed for them(eastern European black haired tall guy in small rank office). She ignored me completely. She told me to come to the office (which is in fucking acton, i live in streatham). I asked why, am i getting fired. she dodged the question completely by asking again have i found the sheets. I asked will i be getting paid for the work i had done. she then said that my wages (week and 2 days wages) would help pay towards the package being lost. I got pretty angry but did not insult them or anything. I was transferred to someone again who literally asked me have i got the sheets. I said no. and it all started all over again.

HOW DO I GET MY FUCKING WAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go back to the account that you dropped the job off to and find this bloke who originally signed for it.Get him to call those knobs at Churchill and confirm that he took the job from you if you can.If you can't then tell them they are illegally taking your wages away.If they're sticking to their guns then take the law into your own hands.Or maybe not.I would though.

I'm fairly sure you can't have signed away your pay, even if you had lost a package. I'm no lawyer but I'm under the impression that penalty clauses are illegal. Did you even sign a contract? I'd suggest you do what wise old overdrive says, and if that fails take them to the small claims court. They prob won't be arsed with the hastle and will cough up your wonga.

The lesson is: never admit you've lost your sheets, simply forge some new ones! Better yet get a job at a proper company that won't fuck you over for honest mistakes.

Good luck.

Yeah, get the guy's name and then tell them you found the sheet. Can't be too difficult. Once, and only once, you have your money, tell them where to fucking stick it and move to a decent company immediately.

My thoughts on Churchill's are summed up quite eloquently on another thread.

"Hang on... arent all courier companies insured against loss? I know a few that definitely are, I would have thought it to be common practice. In this game packages go missing sometimes, less than RoyalBloodyMale, but none the less it happens, and it would be their responsibility to cover themselves."

And half-decent courier company should have goods in transit insurance - normally covers up to £2000 (although glass, jewellery & cash aren't covered). There will be an excess, could be £50 - more than that seems wrong - but I have no idea what Churchill's policy details are.

However, if Churchill are going to deduct this excess from your wages, they should at least show you a receipt or something on paper to show what the charge is for.

As someone mentioned above, with a physical or digital POD, you are a bit fucked.

If you don't have daysheets or statements covering the work you have done (that they refuse to pay you for) small claims court might be tough. It is kind of a hassle, but when I worked for a really sketchy company back home riders would xerox daysheets at the end of every shift. This also makes it easier to catch them at it if they are skimming.

If court doesn't work, maybe try to shame them into paying. No threats, no vandalism.. maybe letters to every cl;ient you have ever delivered to. show up at every churchill client once a week and tell them your story. Call every extension you can find for some of their major clients, and waste people's time. The clients probably won't have much sympathy for you, but they will complain to churchill, who will hopefully decide to give you your cash rather than look shabby in front of their clients. In the grand scheme of things they have a lot more to loose than you, and would probably rather pay you off than deal with the negative publicity.

I normally do use a pda but on that day i was using sheets. Basically they are only giving me 80 pounds for a weeks work. not paying me for this week monday and tuesday and i have to give them back the pda. FUCK CHURCHILL

fuck faye, tim and the other guy.

YOU FUCKERS

As an extension of Janky's advice, threaten to lose them the BT account. Tell em' you'll walk into the BT Newgate office and lay the postman out if they don't pay out.

Unless things have changed since my Churchills days, they'd be pretty fucked without BT.

sorry CB my friends Ant and Scott you se to work for this firm fifty quid a day G and this was about FIFTEEN years ago what cnuts

BT is all they have going for them. That and eMap...if they still use CE.

I think there are enough stories about staff mistreatment to compile a nice client letter... it would require collaboration though!... Everyone wants to be seen, to be ethical. Companies that support un-ethical companies are also tarred with the same brush!

If you are however going to talk to someone that will say the above, I recommend using a tape recorder (although legally you would probs have to warn them you are going to use one)

If you dont get a proper itemised legit receipt I would go to the cop shop... you may be able to open a case of fraud, or theft?

Seriously, get out and go out with a blast. Tell them that either you're going to get paid properly or you're going to seriously jeopardize the BT account. It'll take balls but fuck 'em, they owe you your money fair and square so they're being the cunts here. If they call your bluff, call theirs.

And just be excited about moving on to something better.

And Mike's just smug that he's found a rare little deal with a good company ; )

As a matter of fact, I've told three or four after a couple.

@ChristianB- unfortunately the signature (xda or paper) is the only proof that you have actually delivered the package (as oppose to chucking it into a skip).
@everyone- goods in transit insured? I'm sure they are. I can't find the copy of the last paper that my lovely courier company made me sign but I think I remember it saying that indeed all the goods are insured against damage and lose and in case of company claiming that insurance £250 will be deducted from my wages.
READ THE SMALL PRINT.

Cutting.

0208 993 2211. This apparently is their booking number. Let's all call them up and scream abuse at them until they just get bored and give the wally who threw away his sheets some of his dosh back.

http://forums.gumtree.com/topic231188.html

The boss of the witches works at Churchill Express?

Churchill Express rang me on Tuesday and invited me for an interview(???) to work as a cycle courier for them. I need to take a day off, well more likely a sickie.
Should I bother? After reading this thread that sounds not like a very wise idea after all.
Thanks!

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