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    I've never actually met the guy personally. You probably have seen him too, carrying huge cardboard boxes in a black Courier Systems ‘paper boy’ bag, usually in Southbank area. His name was Phil and as far as I know he took his own life few days ago.
    RIP
    • CommentAuthorselimski
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009 edited
     
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    yeah, that's him.
    • CommentAuthorFesterban
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009
     
    Errm.. shit, I saw this guy all the time up and down Southwark St., that really is quite weird.

    RIP man
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      CommentAuthorangeleyes
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2009
     
    Its is sad.i never got a chance to meet him ,he was always on the go.But for what is worth , he seemed like an honest hard-working man.God knows what drove him to do what he did.
    • CommentAuthorsleepy
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2009
     
    never met him but recognise the guy, he was a fucking work horse. don't remember ever seeing him stopped and the image of him carrying ridiculous packages is etched into my head, seriously i swear if he'd been shown a filing cabinet he'd have squeezed it into that bag (i may not be making that up- i seriously think i might have seen him carrying just that).

    RIP
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      CommentAuthorEmilia
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2009
     
    Oh! So sorry to hear this. :(
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    Very sad. I hope you'll all say nice things about me if I top myself. I can't remember ever speaking to him, as I tend not to associate with Courier Systems people, but he appeared to be a normal bloke - unlike most of you lot.
    I always assumed he was doing a contract at Xerox in Great Guildford Street / Warden's Grove.
    I used to do a contract there... before Courier Systems got it. Just taking bits to Xerox engineers in the City.
    Courier Systems probably have a clause entitling them to a percentage of his Last Will & Testament... and a penalty clause for leaving his contract without finding a replacement for them.
    • CommentAuthorJP
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2009
     
    City sprint got the Xerox contract about 3 months ago, Phil got transfered into the Hub where I worked with him for 3 days before he got sacked. Didnt see him again after that. Poor bloke... RIP
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      CommentAuthorangeleyes
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2009
     
    I don't think the sarcasm although aimed at someone else ,is appropriate in this instance Count.Maybe save it for some other time?
    • CommentAuthorredrum
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2009
     
    he was a really good guy, and a hardcore messenger RIP
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      CommentAuthorPapa44
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2009
     
    i did a short stint at courier systems, 1 day, and i have to say count probably isn't being sarcastic.

    anyway. RIP chap, sad news indeed.
    • CommentAuthorredrum
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2009
     
    ps...fuck you basie...still dont know who you are so wouldn't miss you.
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      CommentAuthorThe.Pike
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2009
     
    R.I.P.
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      CommentAuthorpedro
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2009
     
    That is a sad thing to ear. I have a pic of him on my phone token on the April-2008, with one of those big boxes on his back, I always thought that he was quite amazing guy carring all those huge things, and actually going at a good pace.
    He is a good example to all those people that sometimes refuse a job or ask the controller to send a van because it to big to carry on their back.
    RIP
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    It's very sad when someone takes their own life.
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      CommentAuthoroverdrive
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2009
     
    Sad news indeed.RIP.
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    This happened not too long ago back home (Ireland) too. all the more for people to talk, i dont care who you work for! speaking personally, the nod you get from someone on a job on the opposite side of the road, or that 3 minute chat you get before you go about your business can make all the difference sometimes.

    R.I.P.
    • CommentAuthorselimski
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2009 edited
     
    "I can't remember ever speaking to him, as I tend not to associate with Courier Systems people"

    Since when it matters who do fellow couriers work for? C.Basie-I kinda doubt you were trying to come across as an arrogant dickhead but I' afraid that is what you comment makes you sound as.

    kucharz666 is so right:
    "the nod you get from someone on a job on the opposite side of the road, or that 3 minute chat you get before you go about your business can make all the difference sometimes."

    R.I.P. Phil.
    • CommentAuthorakeley
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2009
     
    so so sad he didn`t have someone to get him out of whatever funk he was in...
    you won`t be forgotten mate...even though I know you only from this beautiful (the essence) picture
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    count if you topped yourself i wouldnt say nice things about you, cos you sound like a prick....

    courier system do have the xerox account

    rip phil
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    Yawn!
    Another group of English middle class wannabe rebels / wannabe victims on a Mass Participation Emotional Experience, empathising with a "victim" to take their minds off the disturbing reality of their existence.
    "It's very sad when someone takes their own life" scores high on the empathy chart, Bill - and a bit higher on the platitude chart. Is it any more sad than the lost lives of all the people we've starved to death today? They didn't get a choice.
    Yeah, it's tragic and someone should have been there to help the guy, but most of you are spouting lovely words for your on mental well-being, not for Phil's benefit. (Strewth! People were doing it for Jade Goody a few days ago!)
    You lot would say nice things about Charlie Manson, rather than go against the grain, if everyone else was saying nice things about him.
    You lot would slag off Nelson Mandela & Mother Theresa, rather than go against the grain, if everyone else was slagging them off.
    Since when does it make a difference who someone works for? Makes a big difference to me. If I was driving a transit and someone in a Cyclone or Creative top misread a light, I'd brake. If the guy was in a Courier Systems or Premier bib.... goodnight, Vienna.

    p.s. Hi, Rummie. Glad you're well.
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    God, you lot are so easy to wind up!!!
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    Bellend.
    • CommentAuthorselimski
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2009
     
    C.Basie-do you have a family living in Berlin? A bloke called Jorg?
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      CommentAuthorangeleyes
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2009 edited
     
    Count, although i have to admit i do agree with the core of your arguments most of the time, there is something deeply disturbing about someone who claims mental superiority over fellow posters, yet fails and indeed avoids to identify himself from fear of facing the inevitable backlash his provoking posts generate.You either realize the insulting tone you are using is rather offensive to everyone else so u hide behind a nick ,or you simply are another middle class Englishman who has found at last an easy target (this forum) to exercise some Oscar Wilde type intellect trying to impress.Go give some money to some charity or some homeless if that makes you feel better then , instead of posting in this forum lecturing again about morality -yawn- ,and leave our miserable existence to its own.You seem to be mixing at your own convenience morality/compassion/empathy trying to psychoanalyze instantly ppl that you haven't even met once.Middle class indeed.
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      CommentAuthorBuffalo Bill
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2009 edited
     
    Was the title of this thread '1000 people died today of starvation'?

    It so happends I knew 2 guys who topped themselves on purpose, and 1 who ODed by accident. If you want the blow by blow on how Marcus' death made me feel, you can read that here: http://www.movingtargetzine.com/article/messenger-heroes-no-4-markus-fur-cook.

    Charlie's death was probably one of the saddest and most upsetting things in my life (in personal terms, it probably didn't have as much impact as my father's death but I was so young when he died that it took literally decades to make sense of that whole story and I am not sure that I have even now). Donkey's death didn't have quite the same impact, because I didn't know him as well Charlie, but after Charlie, any suicide takes me back to how I felt then. Angry, helpless, as if I had failed him, personally responsible/ Which is why I felt that I ought to post something.

    So, I apologise that I didn't go into the whole thing, but I felt that I wanted to say something. I thought about posting this link http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/ just in case it might help anyone who was contemplating taking their life, but I didn't, because I had just posted 5 things to main part of the blog about dead people, and I was honestly getting a little tired of posting morbid links.

    As far as wind-up merchants go, you're not bad, but not in my top 20 biggest wind-ups of all time.
    • CommentAuthorJP
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2009 edited
     
    "God, you lot are so easy to wind up!!!"

    I hardly think that this post is a place to wind anyone up.
    And spare a thought for James, you all knew him.

    http://www.movingtargetzine.com/forum/discussion/792/goodbye-james/#Item_0
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      CommentAuthorangeleyes
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2009
     
    James was one of the brightest and smartest people i have ever encounter.Always genuine and full of energy -unlike me-I met him for the last time if i remember well quite some time before i hear of the news and sad as it may sound he was involved with some minor or major drug dealing as he personally admitted to me (boasting about how much money he was making out of it ).Am sure he wasn't the same James i knew by that time, so i didn't register his behavior as genuine, i knew him better.I don't know if drugs had anything to do with his case, or if he was out of it by that time but certainly didn't help much either.I know he had some personal issues with his past, i guess being too bright and sensitive some times can be a curse as well.
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    i never knew james, but i did know phil, and thank you jp, i agree, this is not this is not the place to wind people up, i was not going to respond to the the comments earlier but i feel as i should now. this thread was open up for people to send thier condolensense to him and not for your to attack whoever you have a greivence against....im not im not english, im not middle class and im not a wannabe victims on a Mass Participation Emotional Experience, whatever that is... i couldnt give a shit about jade goody but i do work for courier system......
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      CommentAuthoroverdrive
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2009
     
    Let's not give this thread away to an idiot like Basie.I wasn't going to mention this but it seems like the right place to offer my sympathies to the family of Andy Roberts who took his own life last christmas.
    Andy was a Metro courier who I had the pleasure of working with for a couple of years at Metro's old Chelsea branch.
    An excellent guitarist who played in a number of bands, he had a dark northern sense of humour and like a lot of couriers enjoyed a good moan.He moved back to the north after a terrible cycling accident in which he chipped a couple of bones in his spine.Apparently he never fully recovered and this was one of the reasons why he fell into a deep depression.Not many would've known Andy on here that's why I was hesitant in posting this but I think he should be remembered at least by me and the ex-Metro riders that knew him.
    Ride safe.
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      CommentAuthormaurycy
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009 edited
     
    I tell you I'm loco
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    your both muppets at best, scum at worst.

    Start your own thread to talk semantics, leave this one to people who are mourning.
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    And man up and edit your comments so that we can have this thread be just about the people who died. In fact, I'll even start a thread for you "the semantics of dead couriers".
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    This reminds me of Blowieben's insensitive comments on lfgss in reply to someone in Brum who asked if people wanted to go down to London to join the memorial ride.

    Why do these people seem to think their opinion is so important and valuable that they have to post it on a thread like this?

    Utter pricks.