Well, as lushly refreshing it is to have gotten my first fixie, it seems I'm suffering from a pretty bad case of DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness) from all that back-pedalling (and probably just the serious step-up in exercise). Rode it a bit on friday and the weekend, and yesterday for work, but after just a few hours riding today, I got home and my legs began to stiffen up, and slowly the pain set in. Two hours later, I could hardly walk. Now I'm not in too much pain but getting around the house has become a serious chore.
The last thing I need, financially speaking, is time off work, but I also don't want to worsen things tot he point that I'm effectively temporarily disabled from doing anything.
Anyone else had this? Should I seriously get resting, or stop sissying and ride it off? Tips, helpful comments and scathing abuse as usual please...
it dose go away once your muscles realise that you aren't going to stop doing this to them and a protein shake will assist in the recovery period after work and in the morning... get them amino acids into ya... stretch too... as the mouse said to the elephant "suffer baby suffer" but it'll be worth it in the end...
Well, if I called you anything worse than that, I would be doing it just for the sake of being nasty, not because I actually believe it.
You gave me a pretty good workout when I followed you back from that checkpoint back in July or whenever it was, I struggled to keep up, so can I really call you a pussy?
As for DOMS, ensure you're always well hydrated throughout the day, eating enough proteinz after work, stretching before, during and after work, etc. Try to ride as smooth as possible, not hard. I don't know if any of that will work, it's just a guess.
Stretching is mostly bollocks. Assuming you have a brake on then use it more till you get used to riding fixed. And check your position; is it the same as your last bike, saddle height, reach etc? Also, what gear are you on? Maybe a lower gear would be less tiring?
I think the key will be to use the front brake more. I've been trying (successfuly) to use it as little as possible, but I think the back-pedalling and skipping/skidding (well, I had to get the latter two under my belt) is what's caused me to be in such huge amounts of pain.
For some reason I also decided to go clipless, for the first time, on my second day of riding fixed. If you would like to know how this went, ask any of the Pretty Skint riders who were waiting around the office this morning. If they've stopped laughing, that is...
I heard that for some reason you bought one sided road pedals and shoes? Im sure your hurting after failing to unclip and taking out a recycling bin in a most ungraceful manner. Sort it out bruv, you cant use those things for everyday use. Take em back, get some mtb pedals, and ffs htfu.
I would have a look at your old bike, specifically saddle height (centre of b/b to saddle where you actually sit), back of saddle to centre of handle-bars and make sure that those measurements are the same on your new bike. Sounds like you are using a new set of muscles, which would happen if one or other of those measurements is different by more than a cm.
Well from what I gather, there's no convincing scientific evidence to prove that stretching prevents muscle injury. But then there's no evidence to prove that it doesn't. I just do it because it feels good.
I don't get it Fromemory, you have a brake but you aren't using it. Why? Stretching is definately helpful for preventing injury, keeping the body loose from tension and so on. If you work as a courier and don't stretch you probably wouldn't know the positive difference it makes.
Thanks for the feedback. Firstly, I do stretch. I make a point of stretching for 2-5 mins each morning, and I warm down almost every night. I often stretch between jobs too. Don't think stretchings my problem. The pain is so massive and sudden, it could only really be from the change to fixed, and like Bill and Will speculated, there could be some slight differences in measurements.
Zack, I have been using my front brake a bit, but the change to fixed has been refreshing and I wanted to really get my head around the concepts of slowing down and even stopping without having to handbrake all the time.
and Overdrive, I'm playing my biggest gig of the year on friday night, so I have to miss ANOTHER 'cat! This was gonna be a real good un' as well
there are many types of stretching. some stretches are designed to prevent injury some to increase flexibility etc. if anyones really interested i'll post some more info, but basically it all depends on what type of stretches u do, also becareful, cos some of the more old skool stretches can actually do very bad things.
as for doms, from what i've heard some people have had some success with ice baths, fill a wheely bin with cold water and ice, strip down and have fun. but u have to do it shortly after finising exercise. and also i have seen any research behind them, just word of mouth, but i havn't looked for any research either so.....
also active recovery will help. so after sprint/ High Intensity Work etc, just cycle at a nice low speed to keep mucsles moving. wont go into the science unless your really interested
Nik I'm interested.. I try to stretch most days but don't always manage it. When I do its some yoga stretches and the sun salutation as well as some general leg stretches but I don't really know if I'm doing the best thing. Have also had lower back problems recently. Someone also told me that not stretching the back thigh mucsles? name esacapes me can add to lower back pain. SO any general tips would help
i cant remember all the stretching types off the top of my head cos its not my area of expertise, so to speak, but i'll find my notes a bit nearer the weekend. lower back problems can be helped by reverse sit ups (ie face down), and if your so inclined, dead lifts, with the proper technique, or you could end up doing more damage.
5 types of stetching: Static – improves range of movement Low risk of injury
Active – develops flexibility and strength, Stretches the antagonist by contracting the agaonist its full inner range
Ballistic – high risk of injury Develops stretch reflex
Dynamic – only one shown to decrease the chance of injury in following event Essentially sport specific, you get the muscles used to what they will be doing in a ‘game’ situation, not sure how to apply it to cycling as I’ve only ever done this kind of stretching when I played rugby
Proprioceptive Neuromusclar Fecilitation – Long and boring and not really sport relevant
Factors that affect flexibility are:
Internal – tendons Ligaments Fascicles Skin Joint structure Temperature of joint and associated tissues (especially collagen), if you warm a muscle to 40 C flexibility increases by up to 20%, if it cools to 18 C flexibility decreases by as much as 10-20%
stretching properly can be beneficial, but bad stretching ie too much force applied, hyperextending things, will have negative effects, as in it'll hurt!
Thanks Bill and Nik, I'm seeing an osteopath so will be able to get a clearer idea from them. Have also considered the cycling specific yoga but its on at the worst time, friday at 6.00?! Things have improved, still a bit stiff, certainly not going as quick but its not painful anymore. I try to strect for atleast 30 seconds and to the point of almost uncomfortable but not, i.e that I can really feel it....thought it wasn't effective otherwise
Chandra, I used to do a basic sun salutation (about 10/15 mins) before work. It's a great warm-up, and it sorted my stiff back out.
Anna says: cyclists need to stretch out their quad, hamstrings and hip flexors, and also their upper backs, as most cyclists have a tendency to arch their upper back the wrong way, and hunch their shoulders.
As far as actual yoga classes go, if you got together with some other people, you could probably persuade Anna to teach you for cheap, at a time to suit.
oh, and what Nik says is right about over-stretching. This applies double to stretching done on cold muscles - that's why sun salutations are good - you get warmed up, and gently stretched.
Thanks again guys. I think there may well be enough people interested in a cycling specific yoga group certainly from friends I've spoken to...I'll look into a venue and talk to Anna.