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    Is it snowing in London? It's chucking it down here. never been that cold before. Even me sealskinz mid thermal socks weren't much use. Shouldn't have wasted 25 quid on sealskinz 'waterproof' gloves either, they're shite
    • CommentAuthorFesterban
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2008
     
    I've been wearing 3 t-shirts and rolled up combats since I started this job, today the weather switched hardcore and I was shivering the whole day as soon as I stood still for more than 5 minutes. Wasn't much fun at all, I've got to investigate proper winterwear now :sad:
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    3 t shirts? fuck that must have been sweaty.

    on top i was wearing base layer, jersey and waterproof jacket, and lycra tights under endura shorts. that would normally keep me warm in any weather, i even zipped the vents up and tightened the elastic drawchord at the bottom to stop the cold air getting in, but i was shivering, absolutely freezing, and thats INSIDE the library.

    ended up getting a lift home, luckily one of the van couriers lives near me, although by the time i actually got back to base to meet him i could have been home already.

    me hands and fingers get in absolute agony in cold weather, they go completely numb, i can't move them, can't grip onto anything, and feel a really sharp pain in them. just 10 minutes of cold is enough to make me want to cry.
    • CommentAuthorNIK
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2008
     
    i was playing on the ice today in notts on my way to uni. i was fine with just a base layer and short sleeve lycra on top of that with 3/4 shorts on bottom. tuck the sleeves of the base layer into ur gloves and them in place with a watch or elastic bands. then stick a buff into your base layer and zip up the lycra top so there is no gap exposing your neck. u can then pull the buff up to cover ur mouth (dont know bout anyone else but my lips get really bad in the cold unless i cover them up) nose and ears, if its a big enough buff it can even cover some of ur head aswell to keep heat in. if not wear a hat or keep ur hood up.

    when u have a break, slip ur bare hands under your armpits, will warm up nicely (bit tricky to answer a radio but is worth it).
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    - I'm lanky. Stuff that fits me, has sleeves that are too short. Can't tuck em in. :( I wonder if you can get wrist warmers?

    - I have a buff, to cover my neck and face, thankfully. Army and navy store a fiver. I've seen the Buff brand ones going for 12 quid... 12 quid for a fuckin loop of elasticated fabric? yuh gotta be joking! I've got a hat an'all

    - Cycling jackets don't have hoods!

    - It's when I'm actually riding that causes the pain in me hands, it's not a problem when I'm standing by.
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      CommentAuthorzero cc
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2008
     
    "- Cycling jackets don't have hoods!"

    no - I noticed that when I went shopping for me winters. They used to have. Simon at Harry Hall's sez it's because everyone buys helmets these days. Bugger that. So I went to North Face and spent more than I ever have on a single item of clothing. It's bloody lovely though.

    Bin bloody cold here too - luckily managed to keep busy most of the time. Cargo bike: always work.
    • CommentAuthorNIK
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2008
     
    do your gloves have a nice inner lining? or any holes in em?

    i have some milano ones £20 if i remember correct and they work really well, i also have some 'british army gloves' from an army surplus shop, they are amazing but i dont wear them any more for riding anymore as they went a bit weird after they got coated in sweat, but if your hands are cold definately worth the investment.

    'cycling jackets dont have hoods', dont really know bout that cos i dont like them cos of the elongated back on them, i always get em caught on the back of my saddle. stick with the hat cos it'll be warmer anyway.

    as for the wrists, u could wrap a buff around them and tuck sleeves under that maybe, dunno really, but apparently keeping your wrists warm is the key to keeping your hands warm, so try and improvise with something.

    all the best
    Nik
    • CommentAuthorFesterban
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     
    3 t shirts kept me at the perfect temperature actually, unfortunately my waterproof jacket isn't breathable so that's when things start to get sweaty. As zack says, going into an outdoor clothing specialist means your looking at spending a minimum of £150 on a decent jacket, I'm struggling for food money at the moment :cry:
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      CommentAuthorShedhead
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     
    @Nik

    Re: your lips, i nick my daughter's fizzy lemonade lip balm ! She's also got cider flavour, hang on she's seven ! that's Dad's now !!
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    "Simon at Harry Hall's sez it's because everyone buys helmets these days. " That;s what I thought. Not really fair on those of us who choose not to!

    "apparently keeping your wrists warm is the key to keeping your hands warm" well that makes sense, cos you've got them big veins and arteries in yer wrists, so if you keep them warm then the blood going to your hands will stay warm thus helping keep your hands warm.
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    is it
    cold, not noticed,
    its 9 am, 30 degrees and riseing
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      CommentAuthorUr-Ma
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     
    i tend to find any sort of hood limits my peripheral vision and hearing (crunchy rattly white noise) and is a pain when checking over shoulder... baseball cap (big peak keeps the rain off me specs) and a wooly hat over that and a neck gaiter coming up to meet that... Bring it !
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    I'd suggest ditching the 3 t-shirts for just one preferably polypropolyne (Sp) under either a wool (that would be perfect) or synthetic (like the sort of thing your Mom gives you for Xmas) under a shell jacket preferably made out of something water resistant and breathable . For gloves you can spring for Pearl Izumi Amfibs or go cheap with a pair of lined leather work gloves with enough room for a polar fleece glove inside. The later combination served me well especially the leather when I had to change flats on the homemade studded tires I used back in the day. Like working with barbed wire those things. Hope that helps.
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    That should have read "under a wool or synthetic sweater" I'm off sick today because my brain no work good.
    • CommentAuthorJP
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     
    French foreign legion gore-tex jacket... 75 quid, with a hood that fits a combat helmet, under arm zippable vents that are double the length of any cycling jacket, very breathable, impervious to torrential rain. Slightly bulkier than a cycling jacket but its far more comforable and less sweaty than my 140 quid Altura...
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    Kirk, who covers your jobs when you're off sick?
    • CommentAuthorFesterban
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     
    Yeah, when I get some cash I'm gonna kit myself out for the winter, I have to just make do with what I have at the moment. Nice heads up on the foreign legion jacket, army stuff is always super hardcore.
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    http://www.premiersurplus.co.uk/more/on/details/00115

    looks good
    • CommentAuthorJP
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     
    ^ More or less the same jacket, different camo pattern. Looks bulky but light as f**k. Like wearing an air-con tent in the rain...
    • CommentAuthorFesterban
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     
    Massive long shot but I don't suppose you know if these have drawstring around the bottom of the jacket?
    • CommentAuthorJP
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     
    ^ Yeah man.
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    hmm i like the sound of that. shame it doesnt come in black... camo is a bit too on top for work for me

    might buy one for casual use though
    • CommentAuthorFesterban
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     
    Not really feeling the camo either but at the moment it's gotta be a function over fashion thing for me, no point riding around soaked to the bone and freezing cold thinking 'at least I've got a nice colour scheme going on today' (not that I ever do....)

    Drawstring is cool though and I don't really know where else to get hold of a decent goretex jacket for that kind of price and I hace had quite a look around
    • CommentAuthorJP
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     
    Camo wasnt my ideal option either but after going through a few heavy ones in it, I wouldnt care if it was pink. I have seen a gore-tex submarine jacket in black, but no hood or vents... There is a black US ,vented sniper jacket though, dunno how much or where from.
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    Well its generally function over fashion for me, but they expect me to look 'smart' at work, so I generally just wear black.

    looks a good price for that coat, but whatever you do if you get anything from an online army surplus site NEVER ORDER ANYTHING FROM THE CUNT AT http://www.britisharmysurplus.com/ this wanker ripped me off a couple of years ago. It was only 7 quid but thats not the point, its the principle of it, and the cunt who runs the site (Alan McCarthy) is lucky that I don't know where he lives - I don't care how far away he lives, even though it was just 7 pounds I would happily spend £100 on train fares to get to his house and inflict some damage on the cunt.
    • CommentAuthorJP
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     
    It was an even better price 3 years ago at 55quid, 4th winter and probably could do with a reproofing...
    Army surplus in camden market, place top of whitfield st, and elsewhere?
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    When I'm sick my jobs are handled poorly by any of a dozen car based services much to the annoyance of everyone but the car service owners. I'm looking for three or four people to form a co-op with but that's for later as going out for a pack of Camels (cigarettes) is a bit much right now. Oh yeah for the lower layer I use these Pearl Izumi Amfib tights water resistant on the front breathable on back. Any kind of regular pants tend to bunch up and do bad things to my man parts.
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    I didn't do rain gear for most of my first two winters.
    In fact, one of the fist things I said to Bambie when I met him was "rain gear? I don't belive in rain gear." This was right before I borrowed a metal file to file down my chipped tooth in his kitchen.

    I had a hoodie system of letting the top one get wet, then taking it off before it soaked the second one. This normally meant I stayed dry for an entire day, belive it or not, but it's not a system I would recommend.

    Because I only wear skirts I always have extra layers on top and both cycling leggings or shorts and a pair of thigh high leg warmers on over top of them at all times during the winter. This keep me warm enough with the added advantege of being fast drying if it rains.

    On the top I wear something soft to keep my skin away from the itchy base layer, but not so thick as to destroy it's magical properties. Then a t shirt, then a small hoodie then a larger hoodie. When it starts raining the larger hoodie comes off and I use my water proof.

    Iron, on the whole warm hands thing, I recon cycling gloves and glove liners are the way. To keep wrists warm I sometimes use the neck of socks, from the socks that the toes have gone in after i've microwaved them too often.
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      CommentAuthorsteff
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
     
    As someone who likes to toddle about the Rhinogs on his own in the winter, I've found that Paramo kit is the bollocks - more flexible and breathable than Gore-Tex and just as waterproof. Pricey, but they have a shop in Covent Garden which might be worth keeping an eye on for sale items. My Pajaro jacket definitely falls into the "from my cold, dead fingers" class of my worldly possessions.

    Clickylink: http://www.paramo.co.uk/en-gb/garments/detail/index.php?pgc=NIKWAXANALOGYJACKETPAJAROMENS
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    hahahah Its the same old shit every year. Why does everyone wait till its freezing and pissing it with sleet/snow to even think about gearing up for the winter? I bought some deep sea diving gloves other day (2.5mm thick like a wet suit) and their the fuckin business. Probably a good investment considering england is prone to flooding
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    Neoprene?

    Nice at first, but once you have worn them a bit, the smell will make receptionist retch when you take them off. Fact.
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    WTF am I doing on here on a Friday, when there is an alleycat AND a party to go to? Answers on a postcard, please.
    • CommentAuthorFesterban
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
     
    I'm tired and broke, you can borrow that excuse if you want. PLus I'm saving myself for a HUGE squat party tomorrow
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    Did you say saving yourself for a huge squat party? Something that could happen any day of the year, yet you choose that over a crazy holloween alley cat and party?

    I passed out still wearing fake blood, had managed to get my stilletos off but only to put them in bed next to me.

    woke up stuck to the pillows and cuddling a leopard print shoe. THAT is what a party is supposed to be.
    • CommentAuthorFesterban
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2008
     
    Have you been to any of the recent Skumtek parties, seriously phat raves, 30 rigs, security on the door and in venue to throw out robbing scallywags, they've been absolutely wicked. Plus I was fucking rinsed friday after doing a whole day of urgent cross London drops, I seemed to be the poor fucker saddled with all the 'you need to get there in 5 minutes before they leave to get on a plane' jobs one after another :confused:
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    Not really my idea of a good time, but there you go. I'm allergic to anything that could be possibly refered to as "phat".
    • CommentAuthorFesterban
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2008 edited
     
    Fair enough, unfortunately I don't have any leopard skin shoes to wake up with so I'll just have to make do I suppose :sad:
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      CommentAuthorwill
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2008
     
    You really have no consideration for Bill's feelings do you Nhatt?:bigsmile: